Hi Phil, Just getting back to you since Sunday. I have been reading this book on Rolling Thunder,written by Doug Boyd, his English name was John Pope.. He tells of the training as a medicine man.He got his name because he learned how to made thunder storms. Once when he was in Ca at a city they very seldom had thunder storms and suddenly they had this storm. You can almost feel his chuckle when he is telling the story. Very interesting and informative. He also tells of things you should eat, which is mostly veggies. He says to stay away from pork, how many times have we heard that. Beef is not good like the bison. Bison is so tender and good low fat. Fish and chicken too. Talks about how a woman should be treated, she has the run of the house and no one else. The female is very important to the Indian. When he meet his wife to be, he had 3 other girls with him, he saw the wife to be, because he just knew what she looked like. He took the other 3 ladies home and came back to meet his wife and she was still there. I kept looking at pictures on the web of Rolling Thunder and I kinda think this is his dad. Because of the year on the pic. 
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