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Re: Missouri's Governor goes Nuclear on Obama's Truth Squads:
9/30/2008 7:22:40 AM

Funny,

Polosi is about as bad as it gets in politics, and after her wonderful speech yesterday telling us this problem was caused by republicans was laughable, as if there wasn't enough blame to go around for both parties, no, she chose to make a case for voting democrat, and it disgusted me knowing the issues at hand.

I am glad it was defeated, it shows the power of the people when needed, it sent a clear message with 100 to 1 against bailout who contacted their congressional leaders in each state.  Did these crooks really think everyone was going to take being slapped in the face with bailout put squarely on the backs of taxpayers.

Enough is enough, politics as usual must end, and the more you look at what these elected bobble heads screw the taxpayers of this country, the more clear it is time to end the two party system.  Vote for independent to show these crooks we are fed up.  No vote is wasted if you vote with your heart, not party line.  Just as people are outraged with this bailout, don't forget who allowed it to happen, there is enough responsibility to go around in bother parties, even though Polosi would like us to believe it is all the republicans fault. lol

Disgusted, Mike

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Re: Missouri's Governor goes Nuclear on Obama's Truth Squads:
9/30/2008 3:09:48 PM
Hi Mike

I've been watching FOX NEWS when I can, the only place you can watch unbiased news.  Pelosi really made a dumb move opening her mouth going into the house with this bill.  She made some dumb comments and finger pointing.  I'm sure she really made a lot of Americans mad.


Sheppard Smith had a list of what $700M dollars would buy.  I think there were 4, I only caught 2, but here they are.
 Yearly Salary of 22 Million Americans
 The Entire War in Iraq

I'm doing a search hoping to find one interview Sheppard did with a gentleman, Jeffrey Miron.  He made more sense so far than anyone. I'll try to get it,and post it for everyone.

Thanks Mike for stopping by

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Re: Missouri's Governor goes Nuclear on Obama's Truth Squads:
9/30/2008 3:34:52 PM
Mike this is more like it, don't you think?


545 Responsible


Written by: By Charlie Reese - former columnist of Orlando Sentinel

 

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.  Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats
and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

 
Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

 
You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

 
You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

 
You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

 
You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.


You and I don't control monetary policy, The Federal Reserve Bank does.

 
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.


I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress.

 
In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

 
I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority.

 
They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.

 I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.  The politician has the power to accept or reject it.  No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

 
Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault.  They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

 
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.

 
No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and

criticized the President for creating deficits.

 
The president can only propose a budget.  He cannot force the Congress to accept it.


The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.

 
Who is the speaker of the House?  She is the leader of the majority party.  She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

 

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted - by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility.

 
I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.
 


When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
 

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

 
If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.
 

If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ.

 

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

 

There are no insoluble government problems.

 

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.

 

Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

 
Those 545 people and they alone, are responsible.

 
They and they alone, have the power.

 
They and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

 
We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!


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Re: Missouri's Governor goes Nuclear on Obama's Truth Squads:
9/30/2008 4:07:12 PM
Received this in an Email this morning wanted to share with you all.

*** Stop the Housing Bailout's main site has been temporarily moved here ***

Americans are sick and tired of politicians rushing to the aid of their wealthy friends and backers, to the detriment of the mainstream citizens who voted them into office. Nonetheless, this discord and disappointment very rarely translates into action on the part of constituents. Over the past week, however, torrents of constituents of all political persuasions greeted their representatives with a tidal wave of sentiment against a proposed bailout of Wall Street banks. And in a shocking turn of events – the majority of politicians listened and killed HR 3997 on the floor of the house.

Garbage In; Garbage Out

Make no mistake, this was not some knee jerk reaction by politicians who were merely expressing the populace’s very real disdain for Wall Street and their excessive pay. No, there were very real and very significant flaws with the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (“HR 3997”) that prevented a consensus in the House.

Foremost, the proposal was garbage because it was based on garbage. The three-page proposal sent to Congress by Secretary Paulson would be funny if he had not been serious; it was doomed to failure from the start. It gave the Secretary complete, unfettered control over the United States economy – and with no oversight from any commission, court, or the Congress.

Unfortunately, and as so often happens in these situations, Congress took Paulson’s fatally flawed bill as a “starting point” for its own legislation. This was a incredibly bad idea. As the saying goes, “garbage in, garbage out.” And the Paulson plan was the worst kind of garbage.

Five (Plus) Necessary Components of Any Bailout Bill

* Mandatory and enforceable equity stake, via warrants or other mechanism, in companies helped;

* Mandatory and enforceable requirement that any securities purchased by the Treasury are bought at “mark to market” rather than “mark to maturity” prices;

* Lower initial layout by taxpayers, optimally no taxpayer money at risk through an alternative program, e.g.: a short-term (two years or less) government guarantee of all banking deposits, covered bonds, senior debt, and dated subordinated debt;

* Mandatory independent oversight of all actions by the Treasury Secretary under the bill – optimally manned by a commission composed of a majority of economists – not political appointees or Wall Street lackeys (or both); and

* Mandatory and enforceable controls over executive pay and stock options for all employees of firms helped.

* Please also review Denninger's thoughtful plan to restore confidence to the markets!!!

Five Reasons the Bailout Had to Fail

I. No Effort – NONE – to Change the Risk Game

· The past decade of industry self-regulation has proven that the model is worse than ineffective in preventing excessively risky behavior – it actually promotes such behavior

· Despite its huge payoff to Wall Street, the bill has absolutely no provisions to curb the behavior that brought us to this point

· It is a toothless tiger

II. Insufficient Limitations on Executive Branch Power

· The bill ceded unprecedented power from the Congress to the Executive Branch, with insufficient controls and limitations

· The sole check on the Treasury Secretary was a commission composed entirely of government and industry outsiders – no outside voices from experts who did not have a conflict of interest with Wall Street

· Congress would have no control over the securities purchased by the Treasury Secretary, and the bill gives the Secretary discretion to buy ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME

· Fed Chairmen Bernanke has already signaled that he believes the government should pay “mark to maturity” prices for these securities rather than “market prices” – in other words, he wants to pay MORE for the securities than they are worth

III. A Ginormous “Moral Hazard”

· The bailout would have transferred enormous wealth from taxpayers to those who knowingly engaged in risky behavior. Thus, the bailout encourages companies to take large, imprudent risks and count on getting bailed out by government. This "moral hazard" generates enormous distortions in an economy's allocation of its financial resources

· The bill rewarded those in Wall Street who knowingly took risks and failed – the very nature of the relationship between “risk” and “reward” demands that risk takers incur any losses that their risky behavior effects [make no mistake, Wall Street profited handsomely for the past decade from its risks]

· As a result, the bailout would encourage companies to take larger risks in the future, because they know the government will bail them out

· Those who took no part in the past rewards would be required to foot the bill for the risktakers.

IV. Bad Economic Policy

· Mark to maturity is just plain bad policy and is unabashed gift to the Wall Street bankers (Bernanke should be ashamed of himself)

· HR 3997 – alone – would increase the national debt by almost 10%. Which begs the question: how are we going to pay for this? The answer is money borrowed from other countries, which means we will have debt service on these loans. Worse, this perpetuates the cycle that started this mess: people (countries) borrowing more money than they can possibly repay

· The bailout bill had NO requirements that protected taxpayers – any purported protections were illusory because they were merely “optional.” Mandatory warrants or equity stakes in the companies that are helped could have solved this problem.

· A bailout of this proportion would severely, and perhaps irreparably, damage the “free market superpower” image of the United States abroad, thereby diminishing other countries’ willingness to follow our “model” or lend us money

· Two-hundred of the top economists in the country have attested, the bailout is flat out bad economic policy that – like so many politically expedient bills – puts short term relief above long term prosperity. As a result, the private capital markets will be substantially weakened in the long run. (See this statement by almost 200 top economists)

V. Foreclosures Are NOT The Problem

· The bill’s attempt to help homeowners facing foreclosure is laudable, but misdirected. The simple fact is that foreclosures are a necessary component of this housing correction because HOUSING PRICES ARE TOO HIGH RELATIVE TO INCOMES.

· The disconnect between house prices and income was a direct result of lending standards that became so lax that anyone with a heartbeat could get a loan. Congress – and particularly Rep. Frank – pushed lax lending standards on the premise that homeownership would help lift constituents out of poverty. But the reality is that you help no one by loaning them money to buy homes that they cannot possibly afford.

· Trying to help people stay in homes that they cannot afford (and never could) will only prolong the housing downturn. Forestalling foreclosures artificially maintains housing prices that need to correct.

· The sooner that banks, home-borrowers, and politicians realize that the housing prices of 2002 through the present were “bubble prices” the sooner the housing market can correct and the pain will stop.

*** We still need action to make sure Congress hears these issues ***

Please go to the main STHB site and use the resources it provides to contact your representatives!!!
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Re: Missouri's Governor goes Nuclear on Obama's Truth Squads:
9/30/2008 6:42:19 PM

Thanks Sandy,

 

A BIG BINGO, that says it all, the system is broke, and anyone with half a brain has to see it, but most put party blinders on to avoid admitting that both parties are to blame, good posts, surely says it all in my opinion.

 

Thanks, Mike

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