You're wrong about me, Carl.  I'm not a leader and I never claimed to be.  I'm an investor -- a small-time, aspiring investor but that's what I am.  I'm investing in you and Marilyn.  I'm sure you won't let us down.

As for my having a Macintosh, I'm not making excuses.  I gave you an absolute fact when I told you that Hot Conference isn't downloadable by Mac.  But even if I could enter the conference room, I don't need training.  What I need are positive results and money, and that's why I'm here. That's why I'm sure most of us are here.

Jeff, I must say, that this is NOT an investment opportunity. It is a business and businesses need work. if you are looking for investments, then you need to look at things like Forex or something. All I have seen you do is complain about not making any money and so forth, but I have not seen you actually put effort into building this business. You say you don't need training, I beg to differ with you as you show me that you have no knowledge whatsoever of Network Marketing. If you want to be a network Marketer, then get with the program. if you want to be an investor, it's time you looked elsewhere as this is not an investment program where you sit back and reap rewards off of stocks and bonds. Right now you are demanding to reap rewards off of other peoples work and sorry, but I don't tolerate that.

With all due respect, you're dead wrong about me, Carl.

I'm well aware that this is not an investment opportunity and that it is MLM. However, when one spends money to make money, that is a form of investing. If I bought a store for example and sold products from that store, when I pay my usual overhead expenses (employee salaries, utility bills, shipping costs, etc) whatever money is left over at the end of the month that's profit.....that kind of operation is an investment.  An MLM business that may also involve products and / or services is also an investment in that regard.  It's just not the kind of investment that is listed on any stock exchanges. There is no board of directors or shares sold. 

I used to actively work other multi-level marketing businesses going back to the late 1990s, and never had any success. That was due to a combination of the businesses failing and my inability to properly do networking.  So it wasn't due to a lack of training -- it's just not what I do best and I never denied that.

I got back into MLM with team builds such as Getaway Club and this Global Diamond Elite.   Thanks to my limited efforts (personally sponsoring 2 people I've invested elsewhere with in the past) and to a much greater extent the GC teambuild's efforts (they got me over 30 people) I did make a few hundred dollars in the early months last year.  GC has slowed down considerably because they have a one-time $230 fee.  GDE is better because it's an affordable $20 / month fee.  Whether we use the products or services offered (marketing training, educational software) or not is irrelevant. They are there to make this legal and ethical.   I'm here for the money as we all are.

Obviously there are those among us who will work this and those who won't for whatever reasons.  I'm not looking for a "free ride". If that were the case, I wouldn't be paying $70 a month between this and Spin Success.   So the work is divided between you and the other team leaders and marketers along with the people I've hired in Spin Success.  I have confidence that between you guys i'll get some spillover and traffic driven to my sites eventually.  :)