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Kathy Hamilton

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The Government Can tell us
11/27/2006 1:49:32 PM
The government Can tell us that there is seperation of church and state, why is one ok and not the other??Regarding Marriages???? kathy/simikathy.com
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Re: The Government Can tell us
11/27/2006 2:02:48 PM
Complex issues here. I can't speak for the US, but I know that in Canada the principle works along these lines:

Because Canada is a multicultural nation, its citizens comprise a wide variety of ethinc and religious backgrounds. You can't make political decisions based on Christian theocracy in a country that also has large Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, and Native American communities (to say nothing of deciding whether the government's decisions should be based on Catholic, Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Mormon, Penetcostal, etc. etc. beliefs). While our democracy is indeed based on majority decision, we also feel a deep moral obligation to protect the rights of minorities from the abuse of power traditionally associated with hegemonic majorities (we did have a violent period in the mid 1800s, and again in the mid 1900s, as a result of "majority rules" politics).

Even in the early days, disputes between French Roman Catholic and English Protestant factions in government forced our leaders into the realization that determining anything legal that was good for everyone in the country couldn't be done if it was approached from a religious position. For that reason, religion was separated from state matters.

Matters like performing marriage ceremonies are considered civic, and not human, rights. Therefore, the concern over whether or not a same-gendered spouse has a right to inheritance or insurance coverage is a matter for the state. Whether the marriage ceremony is performed within a religious institution is left up to the institution.
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Re: The Government Can tell us
11/28/2006 12:21:56 AM
Hi Kathy!  :-)

Seperation of church & state.
  Let's look @ that for a moment......shall we?  Now, years ago when our forefathers wrote our constitution, I VERY HIGHLY doubt that theyy meant that we should not allow our kids to pray for their PB&J sandwhich during lunch.  Nor do I feel that they meant that we should not have the 10 commandments posted in our schools.......or in the court houses across the country.

Anyway it goes.......one must remember that back in the REALLY old days.....religious leaders had great power.  They were the governing force of many countries.  They had too much power......and they did abuse it.

I believe that "Seperation of church & state" simply means that no religious organization may have any authority over an elected government.  How the idiots twisted that to mean that our children can't thank God for their lunch @ school is beyond me. 

My 2 cents.....

Have a great week! :-)
~ Drummerboy Keep on thinking positive…..thank God for everything that’s good in your life……..and make it a great week!

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