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I would like to know how many people are paying attention to Health Care bill
8/9/2009 8:44:44 PM
I have been listening and listening to different radio reporters as well as newscasters and I'm getting scared that this thing may pass. Yes I said scared. Some of the provisions in this bill would put us all at the governments mercy when it comes to our health. I do believe that if they get it passed then soon they will be telling us how much we have to exercise, what we have to eat, and when and where we can go if we get sick.. Anybody able to calm my nerves about this????
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Re: I would like to know how many people are paying attention to Health Care bill
8/9/2009 11:27:16 PM

We can't ignore that the US spends an enormous percentage of its
budget (not the government's but the country's budget) on health care
and we don't get a very good result for our money.

The objective is for the US to manage health care cost and quality as a whole. Right now we manage health care cost and quality by large insurance companies that are driven by their bottom lines.

There is no current mechanism by which to manage cost and quality for
the US. Our health care costs are a major factor in keeping the US
from being competitive on the world's economic stage.

The general consensus among physicians is that their hands are tied by
the insurance companies, preventing them from giving their patients
the health care they deem best for the patient.

According to the CIA World Factbook, the US ranks 50th for life
expectancy, following far behind many countries with government health
plans, so maybe the government will do an okay job.

No taxation without representation!

That verbal tinder started the fires of our revolt against British rule more than 200 years ago. Today we are disastrously living with the opposite – representation without taxation.

We ask for something; the politicians promise to provide it. Some of us ask Republicans. Some of us ask Democrats. We never ask for less spending; we always ask for more. We never ask for more taxes; we always ask for less.

Our friends in Washington do their best to give us what we want. If we paid a bit more attention, we would know that they have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams. We have lots more spending than we have taxation.

The best measure of their success is how our elected representatives have promised us basic things like income security and health care when we are old – Social Security and Medicare – without securing the tax revenue to support the promises.

How large is the gap between promised benefits and supporting taxes? Humongous. Here is a summary of the unfunded liabilities for these important programs.

Social Security and Disability: In 2004, according to the trustees report, the unfunded liabilities of this indispensable program were $3.98 trillion. The 2009 report sets the liability at $5.66 trillion. The unfunded liability is the difference between expected employment tax collections and expenditures on retirement benefits and disability income.

Some people are frightened for the future of Social Security, but as you will soon see, this liability is dwarfed by the liabilities of Medicare.

Hospital Insurance: Since 2004, the unfunded liabilities of this program have grown from $8.2 trillion to $13.4 trillion, an increase of $5.2 trillion. This increase alone is greater than the increase in publicly held federal debt over the same period.

Medicare Part B: In the last six years, the unfunded liabilities of this program have grown from about $11.5 trillion to $17.2 trillion, an increase of $5.7 trillion. I say "about" because the 2004 report grouped the cost of the new prescription drug bill, an estimated $8 trillion then, with the cost of Part B.

Medicare Part D: The prescription drug plan has liabilities that have bounced around since its inception in 2004. The pill program added, in a single stroke, unfunded liabilities that were greater than the unfunded liabilities of the entire retirement and disability income program. Estimated at about $8 trillion then, they clocked in at $7.2 trillion for the 2009 report.

The Whole Ball of Wax: Put it all together, and the unfunded liabilities of elderly security – the difference between what is promised and what tax collections will pay for – has grown from $31.68 trillion to $43.46 trillion. That's an increase of nearly $12 trillion in five years.

Note that these figures are massively larger than what the politicians talk about, including the record estimated deficit for this year, $1.8 trillion.

The Elephant in the Room: Unfunded Medicare liabilities alone have grown from $27.7 trillion to $37.8 trillion since 2004. That's an increase of $10.1 trillion in five years, more than twice the $4.2 trillion increase in publicly held federal debt over the same period.

The bottom line is that health care reform is coming our way, and soon. But the reform won't be an expansion of health care. It will be a reduction.

Should we worry about this?

Maybe not. We have the most expensive health care in the world, but few claim it is the best. One indication: We rank 50th in the world for life expectancy and 24th in the world for disability-adjusted life expectancy.

That's what representation without taxation produces.

William (Bill) Littlehales M2E Mentor Idea Development Communications Management pers. email - littlehales@att.net http://www.me2everyone.com/222268 http://twitter.com/OldMrBill http://www.linkedin.com/in/littlehales http://www.ecademy.com/account.php?id=462059
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Re: I would like to know how many people are paying attention to Health Care bill
8/10/2009 7:53:51 AM
Hi, I understand your concern. There isn't much concern about this world anymore because it not going to be around too long nowadays. I advise everyone to be at the hands of God's mercy. He is coming very soon on judgment day. I have been listening to www.familyradio.com (Brother Camping) been on radio for over 40 years. He was a deacon, Pastor at one time and he is familiar with how the system works among the churches. I also familiar with what is going on and doesn't look great inside or out. This is more of serious matter than here on earth, when the lord will explode his wrath on rebellious and unbelievers. I have this awful gut feeling last year when I was listening to radio as well as the bible. This isn't just fake or a guessing game, this is going to happen very shortly. I have intense desire to learn, listen and hear carefully God's word which most congregations aren't expressing these scriptures properly. Alot of them don't understand or try to listen or ask God to open their spirtual eyess which I know these can very complex. They don't want to know the truth, people like this world it's been good to some people. He also came up with the timeline, a little book that is online you can read or ask Family radio to send in the mail. " We're almost there" I didn't grasp quite yet at first. But when I read it again and ask God to open my spiritual mind, I had a better comprehension of how Brother Camping FOUND FROM THE BIBLE, NOt HIS PREDICTION, ALL THE PROOFS FROM THE BIBLE. The one great thing about this is GOD is informing at least within less than 2 years (open the little book of Daniel). God asked Daniel to close the book until the end. These are the last days and God's timing is perfect. He knows when something will be ignite in this world. I wonder sometimes how he put up with this wicked world. I assure you don't dwell on this, try to get into God's world first and all things will endure. Try to ignore the confides of these world, because this is Satin world. He likes distraction of course for you to turn away from God's word. These world will be totally destroy when the day of Judgement occur on May 21, 2011. after that then 153 days of destruction will prevail and later all this world will be totally alienated, and will not be remember no more. Take the time to love, cherish and ask God's for his hel. He will provide for you if you seek and find the door shall be open. God Bless and Take Care Alexia
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Re: I would like to know how many people are paying attention to Health Care bill
8/10/2009 9:18:31 AM

OMG!!!!!   The Sky Is Falling!!!  The Sky Is Falling!!!!                                So spake (sic) Chicken Little.

Back to the question at hand, you might be interested in this recent 7 minute NPR broadcast discussing the Canadian and US health care systems. No sugar coating, just plain talk about the differences. From it, you can draw your own conclusions.

You may have seen a number of TV spots talking about Canada's "terrible" system. This interview gives a different perspective while not sugar-coating the problems they do have.

My net out is at least Canada tried something rather than sticking their head in the sand for the last 43 years.

http://public. npr.org/anon. npr-mp3/npr/ me/2009/08/ 20090810_ me_13.mp3? dl=1

 

William (Bill) Littlehales M2E Mentor Idea Development Communications Management pers. email - littlehales@att.net http://www.me2everyone.com/222268 http://twitter.com/OldMrBill http://www.linkedin.com/in/littlehales http://www.ecademy.com/account.php?id=462059
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Re: I would like to know how many people are paying attention to Health Care bill
8/11/2009 5:54:14 PM
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