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Hi Scott.
Now this is what I call a lively discussion that will hopefully get people to learn the proper way to make comments or to forums.
I know there have been many forums on Adland itself about spamming. I have noted that people get a little riled about them by the way as though they are sick of it..dont want to hear it..and just go away please....I think the reasoning for the attitude is that as that with all kinds of advertising they are so bombarded with the same tiresome message.. people are tuning it out..
I sometimes feel that before we can educate, we need to understand the issues of spamming, how to post in forums, do blogs etc and then we can teach.
From my studies, what I am noting is that many people are so desperate to make money, that they just joining whatever seems the easiest. People are not taught basics of running a business in any way. They have been taught that they must get the message out..no matter how..without knowing what business they really are in.
They have been taught..if you can call it that, to just send out links then surely someone will sign up.
We are so bombarded with this particular message we just do it without thinking.
Worse yet, when you factor in that we are not given facts or rather a narrow vision of spamming, then people do not understand, and like this forum becomes viral in spreading the message.
The fact is..IT DOES NOT WORK!
It is only through conversation and people seeing us as experts on our business that we gain the credibility so that others will listen to us.
So how does one accomplish this?
I would like to talk about forums, comments at this time.
so...I am going to attempt to come from a different perspective:
You know you are a spammer when:
1 Say nothing unique or relevant to the post at hand. Make them assume an automated bot hit their comments/threads
2 Send pings to everyone talking about a subject. In your aggregation post, state nothing of interest. Only state that other people are talking about the topic.
3 Sign up for profiles on forums you never intend on commenting on.
4 As a new member to various forums, ask the same question at 20 different forums on the same day.
5 Post nothing but "me too" posts to build your post count. Use in combination with a link-rich signature file.
6 Submit your site to 200 cheesy paid directories (averaging $15 a pop) that send zero traffic and sell offtopic run-of-site links
7 Send pings to everyone talking about a subject. In your aggregation post, state nothing of interest. Only state that other people are talking about the topic.
8 Instead of asking people what their name is, ask what their URL is. As soon as you get their URL ask if they have linked to your site yet and if not, why not.
9 Don't even link to any of the sites you are pinging. Send them pings from posts that do not even reference them.
10 Post on forum threads that are years outdated exclusively to link to your semi-related website.
11 Start marketing your own site hard on your first blog comment or in forum thread. Add no value to the comment section or thread. Mention nothing other than you recently posted on the same subject at _____ and everyone should read it. Carpet bomb dozens of blogs/ forums/message boards with this message.
12. Please post your link on how to buy baby bottles in a forum on music. How does that tune go?
Do people need educatiing...You bet they do!
To Your Success.
Diane
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