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Are you sending spam? Use proper techniques to improve your marketing results
1/26/2008 11:52:26 AM
I don't know about everyone else here at Adland but as you can see I am getting  a lot of Spam in my forum.

This turns people off to the good info that is posted here so none of it gets the attention it deserves. I wish I had time to weed out all of the spam and post to help the good info be seen. Unfortunately I don't.

I would like to start a discussion about how to get the best results with ads and articles or posts. An education for those that may be spamming because they lack marketing knowledge. I know everyone has their own opinion and that should make for an interesting discussion!

If we as Adlanders create an interesting enough discussion and link it to outside entities, it will soon be seen all over the web.
I would like this to NOT have any advertising, only ideas and opinions that everyone reading can learn from.  This will hopefully create a viral effect that will start to cut Spamming all over the web!

As our discussions spreads, so will the links to Adland and everyone involved. This will make a simple Adland Signature a powerful marketing tool.

I would appreciate all of my friends here at Adland joining me in the education for a spam free internet and hope that you all see the power of this discussion as I intend to use tactics I have learned setting up Success Patrol to push this Adland discussion to the top of search engines and bring in organic visitors to this forum, Adland Pro, Your posts and siglines.

I ask that you keep your posts professional and well researched.  A small price for some free visitors.

Here are some questions to get things rolling....

What do you think SPAM is?
Does SPAM just apply to email?
Does Spam work? Do you read unsolicted mail and posts?
How is the best way you feel to educate to reduce SPAM on the internet?
How do you advertise without spamming?

Your honest opinion is what I am looking for....write it down! Thanks
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Re: Would you read your ads and posts?
1/26/2008 12:11:14 PM
Hello Scott,

I was just posting in my forum and you popped up with this great discussion and I couldn't resist putting in my pennyworth.

Spam, what is it?

When sent as an email it's also known as "junk" mail. No matter where the spamming takes place, the important word here is "junk".

I looked it up in the Oxford English Dictionary:

1) discarded articles, rubbish

2) anything regarded as of little value

3) slang for a narcotic drug especially heroin

4) verb-- discard as junk

Associated with "junk" is junk food, junk mail, junkie, junk shop......

So, junk is useless. We throw it away, so that there is room for the useful or valuable things. If we are good "friends" we do not put our rubbish through their physical letter box, and should therefore be just as considerate when posting in emails, forums etc online.

I don't believe spam works. Just as I would not appreciate my neighbour dumping their rubbish in my garden, I do not appreciate junk in my emails or being dumped in my forum. I delete the emails without reading them. In my Mother Earth forum I was very upset when someone posted their junk which had nothing to do the theme. I deleted that immediately too. It is a form of abuse really, in my mind.

Voila Scott. I think I've actually put two pennyworth!

Angel cuddles,

Sarah
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Re: Would you read your ads and posts?
1/26/2008 12:28:16 PM

Hi Scott,

That's a lot of questions...

One person's junk (or spam) is another person's treasure!

Something important to keep in mind is...when we're looking for people to join a business, we need to find LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE.  Approximately 3% of the general public are interested in joining a homebased money-making opportunity, BUT a much greater number of people who are members of online networking communities such as Adlandpro are very interested in joining businesses.

Another thing, reading and clicking on the links in messages will tell us a few things...how well-written the message is...AND more importantly, how much that person has spent and is willing to spend on joining a business.  The amount of money spent and potentially will spend in the future is of vital importance to those of us who are seeking people to join our businesses, AND their motivation to advertise!  All marketers are looking for people with motivation and a willingness to make investments in programs and advertising. 

Spam or junk mail gives us obvious clues if we're looking for them and willing to read and click for more information, maybe not to join that person's business, but to get a better idea of whether they'd be a good addition to our own programs.

IN THE WORLD OF REAL POSTAL MAIL, I get lots of chain letters almost every day, and the first thing I think is..."I can't believe people join these things and make copies and buy stamps and expect money!"   The next thing I wonder is..."Did they really pay the dollar or few bucks to the person above them or just plop their name on this without paying?"   THEN the most important thing I do is...reverse mail them my offers because I know they have money for making copies, buying envelopes, BUYING STAMPS, and the motivation to send mail out!!  Even if they are chain-letter junkies, they still have proven to me that they have money to invest and the motivation to promote.

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Re: Would you read your ads and posts?
1/26/2008 12:42:37 PM
Thank you Sarah for your "two pennyworth"!

You and all of my friends are welcome to post any Ideas and opinions you have on helping to cut the "junk", "trash", "garbage", "spam" we all get on the internet any time. There is no pennyworth limit!...lol

I believe education of of new marketers and people just trying to make a few bucks online will help.

The professional spammers will eventually get shut down if the new marketers know not to fall for their "make millions schemes" and not to use their tactics because it only hurts them in the long run, not the pro's.
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Re: Would you read your ads and posts?
1/26/2008 1:34:05 PM
Thanks Kathleen!

First let me clarify about the questions.
You don't have to answer them all........ one is fine unless you have ideas or opinions on them all!

Sorry to make you think you HAD to answer them all......

Targeted advertising is the easiest way to improve your advertising RIO and cut down on spam. But just because you are sending to someone that has an interest in what you are offering doesn't mean you can send them an all out ad.
Before sending your ads, emails or any advertising, ask yourself if you would ........
1 Open it?
2 Read more than the first line?
3 Click on the provided link for more info or to buy?

 Its the difference between giving someone information on something they asked about and dropping millions of fliers out of an airplane.
Targeted advertising only took a few fliers, not millions. There was no cost for the airplane, almost every flier guarantees a sale, and you won't get sued for littering........... makes more sense to me to target my advertising and start a conversation with them not just throw an ad in their face!

I have rules and filters set up in my email accounts to weed out the spam the IPs don't catch and luckly don't get much in post mail. I really don't have time to check emails for potential customers or even see if their product is anything i would be interested in.  This saddens me that all the spam I have received in the past (and still am) has cut some nice people with great intentions out of my loop. This is one reason I am writing this.

I like your invite the spammers! This works with post mail and email. They have mailed you with their offer. They are  interested in making money online so are a targeted lead that has opted in by sending you their offer. Don't expect much of a retun here, but you will get some responses.
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