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Venerina Conti

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Re: Mystery - Define occult - Blame Jill Bachman hehehehe
11/28/2006 6:43:59 PM

My dearest Lemurian Queen ...

I couldn't agree more ...

... Knowledge IS Power ...

Knowledge is the ultimate and most powerful weapon there is in life. 

If you think about it ... there is nothing we do in life that doesn't require knowledge ... Oh my ... I have just had another brain storm .... I'm sat here typing to you and thinking about this ..... and I am realizing that ... just being alive requires knowledge ...

Ok, let me explain where I'm coming from ... If we take knowledge to be the entire body of stored data in our conscious and subconscious mind, in our genetic make-up, in our cellular structure and, ultimately, in the survival of the species theories and concepts etc etc etc ... then ... we could not, even, be alive without knowledge.

But ... ok ... this all being true ... we are back to one fundamental "O" word question here ... where did knowledge begin in time?

Sorry to throw this one at you like this!!!! But you started it!!!!hehehehe ....

Love n hugs

V.

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Venerina Conti

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Re: Mystery - Define occult - Blame Jill Bachman hehehehe
11/28/2006 6:57:03 PM

Hello my dear brother Robert

What can I say? ... I know exactly where you are coming from ...

The feelings, the recognising, the knowing, the funny sensations, the wierd coincidences, (which... you, Jill and I know ... there is no such thing in life as coincidences .... everything is ... as is suppose to be .... Nothing happens by chance).

Maybe the "O" word cannot be clearly defined by scientific methods but who's to say that between us we can't give it some sort of new definition based on a ...."as rationalised as possible" sense of the 6th sense?

Does that make sense?

I mean, if we look at this from a kind of rationalised viewpoint ... Ayurveda, Kinesiology, (to a certain extent), Homeopathy and any other kind of Holistic Health therapy that manipulates the Chi, ie. the Vital Life Force, (I mention these because they spring to mind right now), use the "O" word, (defined as: out of sight), for their healing and treatment techniques ....

They are founded in the principles of using the subtle bodies, (within the body), and not the physical and tangible ... to promote health and well-being within the physical realm.

So ... really ... as Jill proposed before .... does the "O" word need a modern face lift in it's definition .... ???

Over to you Robert ....

Huggers

V.

 

 

 

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Venerina Conti

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Re: Mystery - Define occult - Blame Jill Bachman hehehehe
11/28/2006 7:12:49 PM

Hello Ally ...

I tend to agree somewhat that "Mystical" definately has less negative connotation attached to it .... but ... I have to point out something here, which is quite ironic ....

The term ‘mysticism,’ comes from the Greek μυω, meaning “to conceal.” In the Hellenistic world, ‘mystical’ referred to “secret” religious rituals, which, in all logic, should make us associate it with black masses and evil ceremonies, moreso than the word "Occult" ....

So, could it not be ... and this is maybe a long shot but .... perhaps somewhere in lexicon, language and pronounciation ... the human race decided that ... upon listening to the two words, ie. the ring it produces in the ear .....  the tone of the letter combination, the open and closed sounds they make when we say the words and the duration, itself, of the words, when they are pronounced ... were all denominating factors in deciding which sounds more pleasant ... and, therefore, misconstrued meanings were given on the basis of sound?

If you read the words out loud to yourself ....

Occult = short ... dull ... dark sound ....

Mysticism = long .... open ... happy .... almost sung type word ...

Is this why we would prefer to accept mysticism as a less negative practice, when in fact it, possibly, carries with it worse connotations than the word occult?

Take care and best wishes

V.

 

 

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Re: Mystery - Define occult - Blame Jill Bachman hehehehe
11/28/2006 9:08:06 PM
IYEEEEEEEEEEEEE.............

You are right of course!  Now what do we do?

If I really want to keep your question simple, "where did knowledge begin in time?," I would just say with the BIG BANG!

But..........gosh, that would end the conversation, and that's no FUN.  Sooooo.........it must have been a big "O" secret, that was not meant to be understood 'cause then it would not be a mystery.  (Good grief, I am slipping here............... :-)

So, my answer remains......it was the BIG BANG!  Now, let's see you top that one.  Yes, I am prepared to be sorry when I see your answer.

Hugs to you O' Knowledgeable Queen,   Jill

PS - Knowledge is Power!  hehehehe
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Re: Mystery - Define occult - Blame Jill Bachman hehehehe
11/29/2006 9:50:14 AM
Hello Venerina and Jill,
I stopped by a couple of days ago. I was not sure what to comment.
 
I have accepted always accepted many things that other people consider occult. I grew up with family stories of information from "beyond". I was taught not to fear what I did not know.

My life has been saved by such information and I have been led to pray for others who needed help but would not have listened.

I believe we consider things occult because we are taught to fear what we do not know.

Because we fear we cannot know. I have been given information to help myself and others that I would not have been given if I had been afraid.

Listen with your whole being and do not be afraid. You will be amazed at what you find. 

Yes, I believe there is good and evil. We do not have to accept the evil. Do not allow it.

Now I am rambling.

Thanks for listening
Rose
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