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Angry over Forum Post...Long..Please Read..Has it happened to YOU?
5/5/2006 9:00:51 AM
Angry over Forum Post...Long..Please Read..Has it happened to YOU? I post alot at forums, boards, safelist ect.. For the First time in Years I had found a great program.. great support from owner( she actually emails me back in a day) and am making money.. I do not pay any monthly fees... just a one-time payment of $20 get my own page..my own opps to promote for a year.. Well I Love it right and want to share it! I posted an ad at a Forum ( will not give name) This woman is a moderator and well know at this forum Oh my Opp is http://www.hotspot-map.com/index.php?refid=194 well she writes back at forum and post: Hi Patricia, > > I took a look at the hotspotmap thing and I have to tell you that it looks like a scam :( > At best it's terrible advertising space. > I wish you the best with your efforts to earn money - I hope you find someting else soon. *** I was angry and hurt because everyone reading this will think bad about this and will not join Have you had this happen to you? I think people need to do a research of a opp and find out if it is a scam and their personal opinions about how it is written should be kept to theirself. ** Anyway my Response: I know you are the mod here at this Forum > But I think I need a retraction and possible an apology > to myself and the owner of this Opp > MaryAnne has been online for over 8 years and has 20 websites Plus thousands of members > How in the World can this Be a possible Scam!!!!!! > I am making Money it is being Paid Daily into my paypal account and my Website do show Up > ** As Far as how it is designed.. I want you to tell me What You or anyone else can Offer for > $20.. One time Fee.. FOR A YEAR for me to Make Money and PUT MY PROGRAM IN BESIDES YOURS. > I do not mean to Be RUDE But your Comment was Incrediable and offensive > I think You and any other person need to do More research before posting a possible liable and > hurtful thing > I know there are many Scams Online and I have been online for 20 years and have lost thousands > of dollars > I do my research before I join anything > Your Comment not only makes My page look bad for others to see But makes me Upset > Your opinion influences others to join or Not > To tell you the truth I do not think I will post or read this Board again and encourage others > not to as well > You may have ment Well But this is not right > Patricia > These are her websites and a way to email her yourself > I do not not promote something that has not proved to work > http://www.hotspot-map.com/hesk/index.php > For anyone who Has anymore comments or wants to know more > email me at: trying1117@yahoo.com > ** I wrote to the owner the same day and shared what happened and this is her response( same day) Hi there, Dont worry. There are always haters out there. That statement shows that someone on there needs to back up and learn advertising... marketing... and some sense perhaps, to see an opportunity when it's staring them in the face. This is the exact replica from Google's research. It was for their own adsense placement for max. revenue benefit. for their own adsense advertising. It was put out for their *own affiliates*. So they are coming up against Google's experts when google has untold amount of money to pay the people to figure it out for them. And I am sure with alot more education and testing - than the person who states it was "terrible". That makes no sense. As for me - when this was released to the public, I saw opportunity - that is my job. So I took it, and ran with it and thought about "how can we use this information for all of us to make money and advertise our stuff at the same time?" and tada, Hotspot was born. And that is why me... and many people... are successful at what we do. Now, if you had unlimited amounts of moola to pay for someone to make you even more money, who would you hire to do that for you? me or the person who ignores good information, advertising and opportunity? Besides, you guys get the membership fee paid directly to you. So...how is it possible to withhold, cheat, make up and take off to even be a scam. (would love to see an explaination from this person instead of some vague assertion of "scam") Please feel free to post that above and use my name for quoting of course. -Maryanne *grumbling over here at the haters* Another reply from her: I just wrote this to your ticket too: Oh yeah - its helped them get people to their sites! not only that one told me about how he got signups for his newsletter which for some odd reason, surprised me - I mean, it has testimonials on there... these are NOT traded testimonials (sites trade them with each other like that) If I go into this forum it will not be pretty because I will attack the moderator's lack of intelligence and get mean as I am very protective over myself and anyone who is connected with me (such as yourself) and I could not care less about winning some small group of haters over to my side. Tell me if I should or not get in there with you. But you need to know, there are always haters and a single forum - is insignifigant and this is said because there are many, many, many forums and many ways to advertise and millions of people to reach out there and a small forum, doesnt effect it. ** What I decided to Do: Keep posting and sharing this awsome Opp to everyone I know and Friends! I do not know about you.. But I feel good about this owner..I Love Hot Spot Map I think you will too:) I have joined many things and lost Alot of Money Online and with programs that promise downlines and matrixis and no sponsoring and doublers ect... All i do now is Hot Spot Map & My Opps that are on it and listed on Home Page Here: http://www.ryze.com/go/snooky ** P.S. I am also helping those Who sign up with Me:) Get even More Benefits and Freebies check it out on this Page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hotspotmap If you are tired of Spending Money on Advertising and Getting No Results! Quit wasting your time & Money and Join http://www.hotspot-map.com/index.php?refid=194 ** More Ways I Help My Members: This Pages are also On My Hot Spot map Too!.. I promote Alot:) http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-hotspotmap http://freerotator.com/ro/?r=1&u=snooky Can't Beat it for Free Advertising:) For a Year? Come On.. You Need and Want This **Join Here: I Really Love this:) http://www.hotspot-map.com/index.php?refid=194 Patricia Martin trying1117@yahoo.com I just joined a new Social Network! I know what you are thinking already... but I promise you, this one is a lot different. Check out my site at: Its Free to Join & Make Money$$ http://www.beseencafe.com/johnboy
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Re: Angry over Forum Post...Long..Please Read..Has it happened to YOU?
5/5/2006 9:58:52 AM
I heard abt the Hotspot-map thing.. and to tell you the truth, if you bought that for profit and sold it to any newbies, it'd work big time! In many forums, even tho they (the members) actually dislike blatant ads, they are there for one thing for sure - non other than getting traffic to their site, any site... So, to be 'accepted' in a forum, first of all you must get yourself to be noted. Ask any popular posters or moderators a question about their websites or anything regarding their expertises (like what you did here, in my adlandpro's forum). Since my adlandpro's forum is just 'the other site' of my community and obviously the site is not belong to me (even tho I'm moderating my own forum), I don't mind anybody to throw their 'towels' in the ring and expect me to see what they've got to offer. The reason why one felt disgusted by your post could be because, might be, their own program(s) could be at stake. You see and know that Internet is full of mysteries. What porgram works for you may not welcome by others. To feel welcome, stay around and see what other members have posted and 'copy-cat' their approaches. If they were successful of getting many positive responses, that did not mean people had welcome their programs. If they weren't successful, that didn't mean they were not accepted. For the very least, their threads were read, and somehow or rather (if you have your own domain name with a webhosting company), you might be able to see the real stats. Since I joined adlandpro community, despite an endless traffic coming from http://marzlist.com/Free_Advertising_Forum , my stat shown a consistent flow of traffic coming from adlandpro members. So you see Patricia, my point is, you just need to be able to locate the 'thirsty crowd' in any forums or message boards. I had posted many clues about this term I enjoyed to say, 'the thirsty crowd' in forums (see previous posts in my forum). Even tho you've ended up in a wrong forum, that doesn't mean there is no one who is interested with your offer. But what other thing that made them felt 'disgusted' was because of one reason - the referal link. Believe me or not, NOBODY, I mean NOBODY likes to click on a referal link unless they know you! If they don't, if you are able to have your own domain name and place the referal link (by hiding it that I had already posted here in my forum to inform the other members on how to do it professionally) promptly, someone shall click on it. Another thing I want to mention is, be someone that they accept and be friend rather than straight to selling. The later is the biggest mistake one marker must know in order to be accepted. If you've visited my websites or webpages, there are a few things I've done to get more subscribers and some webpages I just leave it as it is - to buy or must buy or read it online for free or pay somewhere else expensively. I could put one lengthy course about becoming 'a forum star' here, but I hope these could make some senses. All the best! P.S. About your HotSpotMap thing, I could make the same website like that and earn. The concept follows the idea of how to Optimize Google Adsense. So, no wonder they were frustrated with that cause they knew it too! Cheers! :)
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Re: Angry over Forum Post...Long..Please Read..Has it happened to YOU?
6/5/2006 2:02:44 PM
Something similar happened to me at a public online business forum also. I didn't post a URL, I was just posting about 2-step direct mail, not selling anything, just explaining the 2-step method of sending out postcards requesting that people send a self-addressed-stamped-envelope and/or $1 for more information. This is a genuine mail-order method that has been around for decades and is not scammy, it's used by huge corporations and was also written about in Entrepreneur magazine. The moderator and some other uneducated posters at that forum verbally ripped my post, anyway...some people have no business being moderators, some of them are just uneducated in business and jerks on a power-trip.
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