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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
12/18/2009 9:31:58 AM
Hi Jim,

I thought you might find this interesting. It's a new video released by the Christian Action Network about a Radical Islam Jihad training camp in Hancock, New York. It's just one of over 3 dozen camps spread around the United States.

You can read more about it here.

Shalom,

Peter

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
12/18/2009 4:27:15 PM

Hello Bogdan and Peter,

I am not a world traveler, therefore I travel the world via the internet. It is an awesome tool. I firmly believe this is why there is a way to peace but while being mindful there always at least two or more sides to the story.

Now I live in a cultural melting pot and know folks from all over ther world locally and virtually.

The two most common issue among all I know, is how the USA is perceived by the world. In light of our willingness to believe these Aristocratic representatives we call a congress, were capable of rational thinking and were indeed working for us.

And the Creeping of Sharia Law in all aspects of everyone's lives by a masterful design too. What I, Offer up here is an article that supports this and bears much consideration. IMHO

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In the political field, Mawdudi asserted the need for the establishment of an Islam in which all sovereignty belongs only to Allah; thus, popular sovereignty would a usurpation of his rights. According to Mawdudi, the proclamation of faith, in which the Muslim believer affirms that “there is no God but Allah,” implies that “one should recognise no sovereign, nor accept any government, nor yet obey any law, or that one should refuse to accept the jurisdiction of any court and to carry out the command of anyone” except from Allah.

http://www.hudsonny.org/2009/12/the-origins-of-islamic-economics.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hudsonny+%28Hudson+New+York%29

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Questions to ask every Muslim
12/19/2009 4:36:19 PM

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Questions to ask every Muslim

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From Bill Warner’s website Political Islam.

Questions for Every Muslim | December 14, 2009

When you study the incident of Major Hasan at Fort Hood, you realize that there were some questions that needed to have been asked. But, no one knew what to ask, since the wrong questions might seem, well, politically incorrect. No one wants to be politically incorrect. We don’t want to offend.

If you look around you will find that no one is asking any Muslims hard questions. Never mind the Major Hasan types, no one asks questions to the Muslim at work. It turns out that there are many questions that each and every Muslim should be asked. These are simple ones that deal with the core of Islam. Every Muslim knows the answers.

“Do you believe that the Koran is perfect?” This is not offensive. Muslims must believe that the Koran is perfect, without error. They also believe that it is eternal and universal. Most of all, it came from the lips of Mohammed.

“Is Mohammed the ideal Muslim? Should Muslims pattern their life after Mohammed?” Again, don’t worry that Muslims will find this awkward. Mohammed is admired, looked up to, and idealized. He is the perfect father, husband, friend, warrior, wise elder and best companion that could be.

These questions establish the Islam of the believer. Every Muslim believes that the Koran is perfect, and Mohammed is the ideal human.

It is hard to find positive Muslim actions, here. I am sure they are torn and may even live in fear of being exposed as a sympathizer to the infidels. They fear the repercussions from those of their own kind more than they fear not being accepted by us.

That is the response I get from those I know here. Much like a street gang mentality, than a so called normal reality many of us live within.

Once part of their family always family unless you sympathize,empathize with those that aren't family or those infidels.

Regular people that live in fear rather than speaking out against those that do not respect the laws of the country they have adopted as home. Treat home like you would want your home treated by others and everything would be more peaceful for all. I grew up in the south and learned that lesson a long time ago.

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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
12/19/2009 5:48:02 PM
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Questions to ask every Muslim

By creeping

From Bill Warner’s website Political Islam.

Questions for Every Muslim | December 14, 2009

When you study the incident of Major Hasan at Fort Hood, you realize that there were some questions that needed to have been asked. But, no one knew what to ask, since the wrong questions might seem, well, politically incorrect. No one wants to be politically incorrect. We don’t want to offend.

If you look around you will find that no one is asking any Muslims hard questions. Never mind the Major Hasan types, no one asks questions to the Muslim at work. It turns out that there are many questions that each and every Muslim should be asked. These are simple ones that deal with the core of Islam. Every Muslim knows the answers.

“Do you believe that the Koran is perfect?” This is not offensive. Muslims must believe that the Koran is perfect, without error. They also believe that it is eternal and universal. Most of all, it came from the lips of Mohammed.

“Is Mohammed the ideal Muslim? Should Muslims pattern their life after Mohammed?” Again, don’t worry that Muslims will find this awkward. Mohammed is admired, looked up to, and idealized. He is the perfect father, husband, friend, warrior, wise elder and best companion that could be.

These questions establish the Islam of the believer. Every Muslim believes that the Koran is perfect, and Mohammed is the ideal human.

It is hard to find positive Muslim actions, here. I am sure they are torn and may even live in fear of being exposed as a sympathizer to the infidels. They fear the repercussions from those of their own kind more than they fear not being accepted by us.

That is the response I get from those I know here. Much like a street gang mentality, than a so called normal reality many of us live within.

Once part of their family always family unless you sympathize,empathize with those that aren't family or those infidels.

Regular people that live in fear rather than speaking out against those that do not respect the laws of the country they have adopted as home. Treat home like you would want your home treated by others and everything would be more peaceful for all. I grew up in the south and learned that lesson a long time ago.



Hi Jim,

The questions are a bit simplified since all Muslims will answer yes to both even the moderate ones. The difference is that there a few, very few that are willing to risk their lives and speak out against Radical Islam and their basic claim is that Islam was hijacked by the radicals, jihadis and terrorists. Yet if you ask them those 2 questions they will answer yes to both.

The problem is more acute in Islam then with other religions. While in the Judeo/Christian beliefs you'll find secular members of the different religions and they are accepted as such. In Islam there is basically no such thing as a secular Muslim. The devout tend to consider a secular Muslim the same as an infidel and are treated as such and that is part of their fear to admit to being a secular Muslim.

Around 6 months ago I wrote an article on this topic and my conclusion was and still is that when the crunch comes even those that consider themselves to be moderate or secular will abide by the rules of the majority that in many cases are forced upon them else they suffer the consequences.

So while you can be a secular Christian and if I wish an unorthodox Jew and nothing bad will happen to us in Islam the same can't be said. It's much worse then the gang mentality you mention it's more like a closed society where if you step out of bounds you endanger your life by doing so. In the old days of the mafia there was the law of omerta and no one dared to break that code......then. Since then it's been broken by many and in essence no longer exists. While the members of the Muslim way of life dare not break their code in fear of their lives. This has been going on for centuries so your friendly Muslim neighbor might not be so friendly as we saw just over a month ago with Nidal Hasan the jihadi terrorist that massacred 13 and injured over 30 in Ft. Hood. His neighbors thought him to be friendly, quiet and peaceful.

In conclusion the questions are irrelevant since you won't get an honest answer and in addition don't forget that according to the Koran and Islam it is permissible to lie to the infidel when you live in their midst in lands that aren't under Shariah law. So you'll never know if they are telling you the truth or not.

Shalom,

Peter
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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
12/20/2009 12:37:23 AM
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Hi Jim,

I thought you might find this interesting. It's a new video released by the Christian Action Network about a Radical Islam Jihad training camp in Hancock, New York. It's just one of over 3 dozen camps spread around the United States.

You can read more about it here.

Shalom,

Peter

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Peter you are missing the mark and only showing part of the picture. In order to be able to see bigger picture you need to rise above. In US there are over 100 militia groups and they all say they want to defend America as in your video above. Those militia groups are not Muslims. These are Americans with all kind of backgrounds who are concerned with what is going on in America right now. If I was Muslim in America these days, I would make sure that I'm ready for what is coming with all the anti-Muslim propaganda creatd by MSM and US government.

Look at this video how the talk show host is trying to ridicule such group.

You might also want to see with the ADL is saying about it.
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/default.asp

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